THIS SCENE WAS LITERALLY THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION
#you know it’s bad when you’re less progressive than a show from the 60’s
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I wonder about the galaxy sometimes....: Khan and whitewashing stuff
As someone who loved both Into Darkness and the original Wrath of Khan, this controversy brought to mind what Kenneth Branagh said about casting the black Idris Elba as Heimdall the White:
“If you have a chance to have a great actor in the part, everything else is irrelevant. “
Pretty much, no Indian-American is praising his portrayal of Khan because? He’s supposed to be played by an INDIAN or at least MIDDLE EASTERN actor
Under your definition Khan’s original actor isn’t a valid one either. Did you know that Ricardo Montalban is Hispanic?
HOWEVER, Cumberbatch being cast as Khan is problematic because there’s that good ol’ phase that there’s no REPRESENTATION for POC actors.
No representation for non-white actors in Star Trek? That’s funny. I distinctly remember a Korean and a black woman being cast in the movie.
Did you also know that J.J Abrams approached the Puerto Rican Benicio del Toro for the role of Khan? Del Toro didn’t get cast because he himself turned the role down, not because J.J Abrams rejected him.
And oh, people who were whining about Idris Elba being Heimdall were racist dicks so leave that example out your reasoning.
Where on Earth did you get the impression that I was disputing this? They were being racist: that is out of the question. However, how is complaining about how “black actor plays white character” any different than “white actor plays role originally taken by Mexican actor”?
Excluding roles where race is integral to the character (would be very jarring for Mao Zedong to be played by a white actor), it is skill and not ethnicity which should determine whether or not an actor should be cast in a role. And race isn’t integral to Khan’s character.
The point is that both white and non-white actors should be able to compete on an equal field, and anything that strives against this ideal is racist.
The point is, dipshit, that there is a huge fucking difference between casting a POC in a role traditionally played by white actors and casting a white actor as a character who is originally a person of colour.
Clearly you need to educate yourself because you don’t seem to get that we do not live in a perfect society. We live in one which is racist and misogynistic. Ask yourself why it would be a problem to cast a white woman as Uhura or a white man as Sulu and why that doesn’t apply to Khan. Then, go hit yourself in the face with a clue-by-four because, congratulations, you’re a racist.
Because questioning my education and blatant ad hominem are all very civil ways to present an argument, amirite?
Just…wow. I want a legitimate debate/discussion and I get called a “dipshit”.
I don’t remember ever saying that we lived in a perfect society, so I see no need to “educate myself”. I never said that Sulu and Uhura should be played by white actors.
Khan’s character arc does not involve his ethnicity. It is Khan’s sense of superiority, not his Indian nationality, that defines him. Nowhere is it brought up and made anything more than a tidbit in the original Space Seed and Wrath of Khan.
Why should the producers care about that, if that is the case? Why should they exclude a great actor from a role that is color-blind simply because the first one to portray said role does not share an ethnicity with him?
And yes, you can be racist towards white people. It is an ethnicity and thus can be discriminated against.
You cannot be racist against white people they are the dominant power and reap benefits of that power.
When I say that you need to “educate yourself” I’m not talking about your education. I’m saying that you need to educate yourself on why whitewashing (which is what this is) is racist and problematic and how it’s different to cast a white person as a character of colour than it is to cast an actor of colour as a traditionally white character.
Try reading this post and then look at this blog. That might help. Also, try looking up whitewashing.
The producers need to care because this is racist and it’s a reflection of how Hollywood is still a highly racist institution.
You entirely missed the point when I was talking about Sulu and Uhura. Just because Khan’s ethnicity wasn’t a huge part of his character (and that’s, ultimately, what society needs to strive towards), it’s still part of his character and, thus, needs to represented. Giving the part of Khan to a white, British actor over an actor of colour is incredibly racist and you defending it with Cumberbatch being “a great actor” says that you don’t think that any great actors of colour would have jumped at the chance to play the part.
Okay, and let me say that colour-blind casting is bullshit because this is not a perfect world and being colour-blind is being racist. Khan’s role is not colour-blind; he’s clearly meant to be a person of colour and ignoring that is racist.
This sums you up so well right now:
You cannot be racist against white people they are the dominant power and reap benefits of that power.You cannot be racist against white people because white people are the ones in positions of power in our society.This is not an “opinion” this is the fact that racism is institutionalized oppression by a majority (white people) against minorities.
Racism is about making conclusions about someone based around their ethnicity. It has nothing to do with power. Power determines the effects you can achieve with bigotry, not the level of ignorance inherent in said bigotry. It is true that white people are rarely if ever discriminated against because of multiple cultural reasons. This, however, does not make it OK to discriminate against whites. Do not fight bigotry and racism with bigotry and racism.
The impression that you cannot be racist against white people creates a double standard for white people and people of color, and double standards must be eradicated for racism to truly be vanquished. There should never be one law governing white people and another governing everyone else. However, the matter of the fact is that there is, and this needs to be addressed. Separation doesn’t defeat racism: unity does.
A bigot is a bigot is a bigot is a bigot, no matter what the target of his (or her!) bigotry is.
Giving the part of Khan to a white, British actor over an actor of colour is incredibly racist and you defending it with Cumberbatch being “a great actor” says that you don’t think that any great actors of colour would have jumped at the chance to play the part.
I didn’t say that.
I’ve already said this, but it’s worth repeating: The producers did not single out Benedict Cumberbatch because he was white. They originally wanted to cast the Hispanic Benicio del Toro as Khan. It was Del Toro who rejected the role, for unrelated reasons.
It was Benedict Cumberbatch’s acting which led to them selecting him, not his inherent whiteness.
Okay, and let me say that colour-blind casting is bullshit because this is not a perfect world and being colour-blind is being racist.
Being color-blind is inherently based on the belief that in roles where race is not germane (like MLK) , race should be disregarded as a determinant of whether or not an actor should play a role. It is the exact opposite of racism, which is the belief that race alone determines your worth.
It is true that this is not a perfect society. I never said that, and I never meant to say that. Indeed, the entire premise of this is based on double standards, a major social obstacle. If it is O.K for a black man to play a character originally cast as white, it is O.K for a white man to play a character originally cast as a person of color. There are things that go against this, and that must be corrected.
The exception, of course, is if the character’s race is important to his character or the core of the setting as a whole. If Sulu had been cast as a white actor I would have protested, since Gene Roddenberry’s primary intent behind the creation of Sulu was to show inclusiveness in a setting.
On the other hand, Khan’s character and the intent behind his creation have never been based around his racial identity. Also, the setting isn’t hurt in the least, since this is an alternate universe. And, as I have said before, they originally wanted a Latino actor to portray him.
(Source: nafaalilargus)
I wonder about the galaxy sometimes....: Khan and whitewashing stuff
As someone who loved both Into Darkness and the original Wrath of Khan, this controversy brought to mind what Kenneth Branagh said about casting the black Idris Elba as Heimdall the White:
“If you have a chance to have a great actor in the part, everything else is irrelevant. “
Pretty much, no Indian-American is praising his portrayal of Khan because? He’s supposed to be played by an INDIAN or at least MIDDLE EASTERN actor
Under your definition Khan’s original actor isn’t a valid one either. Did you know that Ricardo Montalban is Hispanic?
HOWEVER, Cumberbatch being cast as Khan is problematic because there’s that good ol’ phase that there’s no REPRESENTATION for POC actors.
No representation for non-white actors in Star Trek? That’s funny. I distinctly remember a Korean and a black woman being cast in the movie.
Did you also know that J.J Abrams approached the Puerto Rican Benicio del Toro for the role of Khan? Del Toro didn’t get cast because he himself turned the role down, not because J.J Abrams rejected him.
And oh, people who were whining about Idris Elba being Heimdall were racist dicks so leave that example out your reasoning.
Where on Earth did you get the impression that I was disputing this? They were being racist: that is out of the question. However, how is complaining about how “black actor plays white character” any different than “white actor plays role originally taken by Mexican actor”?
Excluding roles where race is integral to the character (would be very jarring for Mao Zedong to be played by a white actor), it is skill and not ethnicity which should determine whether or not an actor should be cast in a role. And race isn’t integral to Khan’s character.
The point is that both white and non-white actors should be able to compete on an equal field, and anything that strives against this ideal is racist.
The point is, dipshit, that there is a huge fucking difference between casting a POC in a role traditionally played by white actors and casting a white actor as a character who is originally a person of colour.
Clearly you need to educate yourself because you don’t seem to get that we do not live in a perfect society. We live in one which is racist and misogynistic. Ask yourself why it would be a problem to cast a white woman as Uhura or a white man as Sulu and why that doesn’t apply to Khan. Then, go hit yourself in the face with a clue-by-four because, congratulations, you’re a racist.
Because questioning my education and blatant ad hominem are all very civil ways to present an argument, amirite?
Just…wow. I want a legitimate debate/discussion and I get called a “dipshit”.
I don’t remember ever saying that we lived in a perfect society, so I see no need to “educate myself”. I never said that Sulu and Uhura should be played by white actors.
Khan’s character arc does not involve his ethnicity. It is Khan’s sense of superiority, not his Indian nationality, that defines him. Nowhere is it brought up and made anything more than a tidbit in the original Space Seed and Wrath of Khan.
Why should the producers care about that, if that is the case? Why should they exclude a great actor from a role that is color-blind simply because the first one to portray said role does not share an ethnicity with him?
And yes, you can be racist towards white people. It is an ethnicity and thus can be discriminated against.
(Source: nafaalilargus)
I wonder about the galaxy sometimes....: Khan and whitewashing stuff
As someone who loved both Into Darkness and the original Wrath of Khan, this controversy brought to mind what Kenneth Branagh said about casting the black Idris Elba as Heimdall the White:
“If you have a chance to have a great actor in the part, everything else is irrelevant. “
Pretty much, no Indian-American is praising his portrayal of Khan because? He’s supposed to be played by an INDIAN or at least MIDDLE EASTERN actor
Under your definition Khan’s original actor isn’t a valid one either. Did you know that Ricardo Montalban is Hispanic?
HOWEVER, Cumberbatch being cast as Khan is problematic because there’s that good ol’ phase that there’s no REPRESENTATION for POC actors.
No representation for non-white actors in Star Trek? That’s funny. I distinctly remember a Korean and a black woman being cast in the movie.
Did you also know that J.J Abrams approached the Puerto Rican Benicio del Toro for the role of Khan? Del Toro didn’t get cast because he himself turned the role down, not because J.J Abrams rejected him.
And oh, people who were whining about Idris Elba being Heimdall were racist dicks so leave that example out your reasoning.
Where on Earth did you get the impression that I was disputing this? They were being racist: that is out of the question. However, how is complaining about how “black actor plays white character” any different than “white actor plays role originally taken by Mexican actor”?
Excluding roles where race is integral to the character (would be very jarring for Mao Zedong to be played by a white actor), it is skill and not ethnicity which should determine whether or not an actor should be cast in a role. And race isn’t integral to Khan’s character.
The point is that both white and non-white actors should be able to compete on an equal field, and anything that strives against this ideal is racist.
(Source: nafaalilargus)
there are two types of star trek fans
POC plays the villain
“OMG WHY IS THE VILLIAN ALWAYS A POC”
Replace POC villain with a white villain
“OMG WHITEWASHING”
(Source: soy-demasiado-friki)
Django is not a good guy.
I’ve seen a lot of posts about how Django “isn’t really the good guy because he [despicable action]”.
That’s the thing. Django isn’t the good guy. He’s not fighting for some noble goal, he’s fighting for his own retribution. The people he’s fighting are evil, yes. Indisputably so. But that doesn’t mean he’s the good guy.
Django Unchained, first and foremost, is a homage to spaghetti western movies. And spaghetti western protagonists were primarily driven by personal or monetary reasons. They weren’t striving for some higher noble cause. They’re supposed to be relatable, not admirable.
Boogeymen - part of a series of eerie stereoviews - dated 1923 (Via)
FARFETCHED DREAMS: Sorry, but I may have to burst your Bubble.
NOTE: This blog post will be unpleasant. I will try as much as possible to be constructive with my criticism, but if you are a fan of Sebastian Castro , are head over heels with his song/video “Bubble”, and is unable to take any sort of criticism, constructive or otherwise, then stop reading.
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I’m cashing in with this guy. I admire the guy for coming out and trying to help others come out, but the song itself is…terrible. Like…Justin Bieber terrible.
